Nice suggestions.
My preference:

I have to admit I lost overview of this topic, lets discuss what is done, left to be done soon.

Can you summarize the agreed upon path and document it in the wiki please so we dont forget it.

Roman numerals (or regular numbering) sounds good to me:

oh and yes without a space would be my preference

yes i like it.
although i would prefer arabic numbering

As we will need to name the first Beta soon.

http://www.htk-jp.com/sd_memory_card_e/index.html enquiry sent via webform.

http://www.htk-jp.com/sd_memory_card_e/index.html

How to cerakote: https://youtu.be/kZaVne4_d04?t=810

Can you order the cards as well directly?

What about simple roman numerals?
If there is a need to denote different parts/variants, add a letter, e.g.

Option 4:
Get 4x30 µPGA blocks which match the Andon pins from a third party.

A common origin could be a good idea in some cases but in Austria we say: "Du kommst in Teufels Küche" ("you get into devils kitchen.." :-)) if you change any part like the hight of a connector or a socket. You have to change this distance in every part in the whole chain. This is not a way to go. There have to be some defined interconnection points on every part but no dependency to any common origin!

I don't like the idea of everyday names tbh, (male or female) and naming after famous characters/movies/people sounds risky.

I went ahead and ordered the Kingston Reader as they are very cheap on CLEVERsparen.at, so that leaves the cards and the card sockets.

will take care of ordering

Maybe get two of these (one for analysis, one for actual use):
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digital-MobileLite-Multi-Function-FCR-MLG4/dp/B00KX4TORI
http://geizhals.at/kingston-mobilelite-g4-reader-fcr-mlg4-a1128626.html

We will do a different HDMI module, I should have more details soon.

obsolete for now?

Github has a 3D viewer built in already. It works for STL currently IIRC but I am sure they will expand it for more formats in the future.

-i dont know if spielberg is supported. is spielberg newer than Lucas? the new firmware supports versions kurosawa and up.
-i dont know but think the newest one is tarkovsky. maybe i will upgrade to that and watch his films too

sounds wonderful if you ask me :)

personally i dont like versions of things having names of people or words that describe something else or anything like that.
actually it gets to my nerves. and they are everywhere!
and while i never remember names and words (my brain cannot make the connection of my installed android version with some kind of sugar candy) it is easy for me to know that version or revision 5 is newer than version 4.
but if version words are available people seem to pay more attention and remember them rather than version numbers.

@Oscar : interesting.
I agree with @daFred concerning the serial number being short and "straight".
This task is there to try and cover the naming conventions from a collaborative and machine readable standpoint task).
Feel free to add to it, if you are using github.

Our lawyer has discussed this with his colleague. We should be careful with the names and look into this name by name if there is no trademark or other protection on the name.
Here is the reply of the lawyer (quick translation from Dutch):

I think films are a nice connection... they could be cryptic yet relevant and very unique. Just as long as no hollywood bigwigs / lawyers find this somehow offensive.

Yes, this was just a random piece of information, in case we could improve the fan design to be dust immune.
What about a square neoprene stripe along the current fan edges, below the aluminium case, in order to diminish noise and vibrations? just a suggestion

In T421#5907, @daFred wrote:

If we call the baby with the full name "Apertus Axiom Beta" the version name should be as short as possible. Shortest would be one character and we can build 26 versions. Subversions could be A1, A2....
And we still can give them alphabetical nicknames.
The name on the identification label (with serial number) should be short and straight...

Thanks, I ll email them soon.

their webpages do not look very representative at the moment:
http://www.ceracoating.at
http://www.kfz-holub.at

The fan is rotating with 2000 rpm! I don't want this blade close to my head while filming!
And sadly the design is not open source, they sell licenses....

Sounds good, do you have a website of the Vienna car partner?

I also don't like the connection to guns but the coating seems to be very sturdy and resistant and they offer a lot of colors too.
There are two cerakote partners in Vienna (and one is related to cars and not guns :-) ) maybe we can take a look....

If we call the baby with the full name "Apertus Axiom Beta" the version name should be as short as possible. Shortest would be one character and we can build 26 versions. Subversions could be A1, A2....
And we still can give them alphabetical nicknames.
The name on the identification label (with serial number) should be short and straight...

Movies title don't credit an individual but a project, and they are spread in popular culture, we just need to check if there are legal issues for some.
So far, in the category one word, short classics titles:

Perfect ideas! Short titles are perhaps best.
Or terms from classic movies. For example: Rosebud in steed of Citizen Kane.

Shining, Beauty and the Beast, Citizen Kane, King Kong, Vertigo, ET, Metropolis ...http://www.rottentomatoes.com/top/bestofrt/top_100_classics_movies/?category=5

The website lets you order free "swatches", maybe we should check it out?

That they are primarily using them for coating guns tells me two things: a) they must be expensive b) I dont want us to be associated with them...

JJMM would mean we are limited to releasing one camera model per month which could become a problem when we iterate quickly. Also the scheme is not self explanatory by itself...

thats true, probably not ideal for a camera.

The first thing which comes to my mind with the "heat sink fan" is precession.

I also think we should not refer to one gender, even if the names can be pretty. lets go for latin digits and films or/and directors or/and actresses and actors... that way it give us flexibility, while staying in one topic that make sense for apertus : open source cinema.

I'd really not do women names. It could sound sexist. It reminds me of car fanatics that say 'she' and the 'girl' about their car. It sounds too 'Atomos-isch' to me ;)
Why not stick to only latin (I II III IV V VI etc) ?

What do you think about naming it like JJMM e.g. 1505
An we could add names like Ubuntu too: 1505 AngryAbigail, 1507 BeautyBelinda
In my opinion numbers are easier to associate with versions then names. ( I just remember JJMM of Ubuntu and not the names...)

@Bertl: thanks for your answer
@sebastian: thanks for the poll, i think it's the best way to estimate the community needs.

ducted fan actually have better performance for airflow and noise reduction. To get better result concerning noise We could connect the fan to the case through a neoprene surface (which is also weatherproof and breathable).
here is a link for a silent dust immune heat sink fan. the cooling effect is radial though, and not perpendicular to the fan.

A caseless version should be nice to have too, because some people (me at least) would want to custom build their own....

https://lab.apertus.org/V9

I will set up a poll in the lab to evaluate how many people would be interested in acquiring this additional 90° interface board in the future.

We got the 90 degree question at NAB, from somebody who was interested in using a lot of the Betas side by side.

let's vote for a 'cat on our shoulder'!
(make the beta cam upright, rotate the sensor by 90°)

Welcome back Sebastian!
here is a new minimal case in progress with 2mm sheets for the sides and around 4mm for the top and bottom plate.
And no "caps" over the fan yet. the top plate allows to screw the fan from the bottom, if we mill a pocket to place it inside from below.

Good to see progress and a downgrading of the shaver potential!

I am back! :)

Keep in mind that anything that looks like a turbine or a fan is very noisy... like planes

maybe we can think of some kind of ducted turbine on top of the fan to accelerate airflow, like on a plane... just an idea.

Christoph, as you can see it, the ninja fits just right in this scheme.

So here is a new version, and a few points :

does the Atomos Ninja Star (95 x 60 x 25mm) fit inside the case? would be interesting to have a recorder on board :)

http://www.centralds.net/cam/?p=6070#!prettyPhoto
interesting reference concerning cooling, and airflow, especially 5.high efficiency heat sink and cooling fan. its for astronomers, reaching for the stars! http://www.centralds.net/cam/?product=cds-5dmarkiiicooled-eos-5d-markiii

I believe it is a pending issue. From what I understand there is a fan on top, and some holes at the bottom, in order to create airflow.

I don't understand how the air flow is supposed to be.

Thanks! I left out the IO highspeed module on this one.
In this one https://lab.apertus.org/T401 we have the same PCB design (V02 03)

i like it!
it would be cool to see how the cable slot (I/O module) look like. .. :)
did you draw it according to that PCB design?
it's on the wiki

Here is a sketch for the latest PCB stack version including the high speed IO module inside the case (no connectors yet).

maybe we can use the inner surface of the aluminium case to do some cooling (heatsync).
What about aluminium core PCBs?

Yes, bending could be a bit trickier. But if we have the right machine, i could also be not so tricky. Since the main goal was the ergonomics, and it might be too small, we can leave it out. I took my canon 600D as a ref for the handle, since it has a nice grip. Im still a bit curious as of how it feels, i might print just the handle part of it.

Great progress!

Hi! Interesting handles. I can imagine there is a good grip!

I'm working in vfx industry and i'm waiting this feature with great excitation, i hope this will be used by the blender tracker as basis for 3d tracking (optical could be just used for tracking enhancement) because optical tracking alone doesn't work any time (during fast motion for example). This could be used to automatically detect element that move in the shot and separate them from the camera motion.
May be realtime optical camera tracking could be done by moving optical search zone of tracking points at his estimated position based on IMU measurement???
This could be a killer apps...

There are aluminium cooling profiles out there. We should find a fitting profile to reduce production costs. Let's search...

i found another bug in the F-mount to CMV12k-V05.ipt
basicly everything that is marked lightblue needs to be moved on the x axis because the mount is not perfectly centered on the sensor when assembled.
see here: https://eveninfinite.com/downloads/axiom/f-mount/f-mount_correction.png and here https://eveninfinite.com/downloads/axiom/f-mount/f-mount_wrong.png

In T310#4843, @sebastian wrote:

2.82mm is the length of the andon pins

ok, does that mean the socket height is 2.82mm as well?
i made a quick drawing. let me know if i got it wrong.
https://eveninfinite.com/downloads/axiom/andonsocket.pdf