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looks excellent but the sensor position is a bit off somehow...

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There is something wrong with the position here

There is something wrong with the position here

this is the correct name of this board for the text below

RexOr added a comment.Mar 3 2017, 12:38 AM

This line you've got running up through the whole thing is very clever.

MichaelH added a comment.EditedMar 3 2017, 8:22 AM

@sebastian: I've centred the sensor a bit to the left because of this picture in the wiki: https://wiki.apertus.org/images/9/96/BetaSensorBoardZIF_0.18_1.jpg. You see the sensor doesn't cover the holes equally.

@RexOr: That's the plan :) I hope when the parts are mostly ready, We can use them to create e.g. a landing-page or some informational brochures, having all one look.

@sebastian: I've centred the sensor a bit to the left because of this picture in the wiki: https://wiki.apertus.org/images/9/96/BetaSensorBoardZIF_0.18_1.jpg. You see the sensor doesn't cover the holes equally.

Right there is indeed an offset that shifts the sensor slightly to the left. But this is because the optical center of the sensor is not in its physical center. See page 64 of the sensor datasheet: https://github.com/apertus-open-source-cinema/beta-hardware/blob/master/Datasheets/datasheet_cmv12000_v2.9.pdf

For me this latest draft just needs some minor fixes and the text written and its ready for the frontpage!

RexOr added a comment.EditedMar 7 2017, 3:58 PM

Yep. Can we call these cards?

Where I'm keen to see this type of thing is in a technical introduction pdf doc for either hard print (along with some other stuff in a glossy folder at events eg. few stickers, three or four flyers, project background doc possibly, and a sachet of shampoo) or soft attachment in emails.

PS - I've had the project background printed properly at a printers before and it constitutes 6 pages. That could probably be reduced to 4.

PPS - Actually on the subject of this line of yours Michael. This is something that, if we're serious about (and I like it a lot) we should be looking to incorporate into wider promo. So if you could forward me a file with just these grey background layers I'd appreciate it. Then I can look at it in other promo and possibly website mocks too.

Actually, do you know what angle you're using for this line? As I'd be interested in our using a golden mean for this eg. 21 or 34 probably. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibonacci_number )

@sebastian Do you have some text i could use for the Icons?

@RexOr The line is actually the result of the reflection from the sensor, this reflection is physically correct and not added in post. Bu of course one could fake it in post an create an exact angle.

It's not always practical to use this card design. For printing I would suggest to use full page layouts. Also there can occur a psychological effect that creates a visual boundary for the user. I would suggest to keep a look on google's guidelines using cards: https://material.io/guidelines/components/cards.html#cards-usage

RexOr added a comment.EditedMar 8 2017, 9:38 AM

@MichaelH I'm not really emphasising the structure of this image when I use the word 'cards', rather, the images external dimensions (whatever they happen to be) ie. mainly resources which have been carefully designed for use in a given situation, and probably employing the same colours.

If it's relatively painless, and there are no objections, I think we should fake the angle in post and carry it through into other things. I suspect it'll come in useful in the future.

sebastian added a comment.EditedMar 8 2017, 10:23 AM

I would do the text and order the following way (draft):

Image Sensor
CMV12000 high end CMOS image sensor by Cmosis features global shutter.

Resolution
4096 x 3072 pixels - 12 Megapixel 12 bit, 300 fps @ full resolution

Diameter
The physical formfactor corresponds to Super35 film or APS-C equivilant: The optical active sensor area has a physical dimension of 22.5 x 16.9 mm with pixels having 5.5µm diameter.

RexOr added a comment.EditedMar 8 2017, 10:48 AM

Second draft.

Image Sensor
CMOSIS CMV12000 high-end, pipelined, global shutter CMOS.

Resolution
4096 x 3072 pixels, 12 Megapixel, 12 bit, 300 fps @ full resolution.

Diameter
Super35 film or APS-C equivalents: Optical active sensor area - 22.5mm x 16.9mm (5.5µm pixel diameter).

lets clarify that 300 fps is with 10 bit mode: "300 fps (10 bit) @ full resolution."

Image Sensor: 12 words

Resolution:13 words (but shorter spaced)

Diameter: 25 words

RexOr added a comment.EditedMar 8 2017, 11:23 AM

Third draft

Image Sensor
CMOSIS CMV12000 UltraHD, high-end, pipelined, global shutter CMOS.

Resolution
4096 x 3072 pixels, 12 Megapixel, 300 fps (10 bit) or 132 fps (12 bit) @ full resolution.

Diameter
Physical form factor corresponds to Super35 film or APS-C equivalents - Optical active sensor area: 22.5mm x 16.9mm (5.5µm pixel diameter).

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RexOr added a comment.EditedMar 13 2017, 8:08 PM

Re: Positioning - perfect.

Re: Angle - It would look ok if you were doing it at 34 degrees from the vertical which is what I expected you were gonna do. So that looks like this - http://andylibrande.com/homeclimbingwall/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Triangle-10x12x34degrees.jpg

But I'd imagine 21 would be best anyways, It's pretty close to the angle you used in your original image from what I can tell - http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/32700/32727/c-angle69_32727_lg.gif

Now the correct angle, psd attached.

Looks great, text is perfect, if there are no objections I will add it to the frontpage of apertus.org

RexOr added a comment.Mar 15 2017, 9:28 PM

Brilliant. Great work all round here Michael.

excellent work!

Added to apertus.org frontpage!

Looks amazing!

Hi Folks, thanks for all your feedback, unfortunately I've made a typo "CMV1200-0-" I will upload the correct image asap.

I liked how you swapped the light and dark around. So did you go for 34 or 21?

Hi RexOr I've used 21° I think it fits better and is more dynamic!

Herbert had one request: to switch the board design/label to the most recent version: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/AXIOM/BETA/axiom_beta_sensor_cmv12000_v0.15_tht.brd

I've made a typo "CMV1200-0-" I will upload the correct image asap.

Can you upload new source PSD file please

sebastian added inline comment(s).Mar 18 2017, 9:10 PM
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"4K" has more pixels than "UltraHD", should we mention both standards here?

@ Sebastian I think we should then use 4k Instead, Wikipedia says that UltraHd describes 4k and 8k

@ Sebastian I think we should then use 4k Instead, Wikipedia says that UltraHd describes 4k and 8k

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution#Resolutions

Ultra-high-definition television: 3840 × 2160
DCI 4K (native resolution): 4096 × 2160

"DCI 4K / UltraHD" in flyer would cover the best of both worlds.

Openfile with PCB v0.16

sebastian changed the visibility from "All Users" to "Public (No Login Required)".Oct 21 2017, 10:05 PM
RexOr added a comment.EditedNov 4 2017, 2:20 AM

Michael I need this card twice the size. And a PSD file with the layers preferably as (edit: among other things) the sensor board on its own is needed in the Wiki.

Many thanks.