Can this be closed?

I think a ubuntu docker container with the required tools installed would be simple to create (this is the current solution for the ci-builds). However, I think, that distributing xilinx tools implys some licensing and export-control related issues. The simplest way to deal with them would be to just ignore those or make the container somehow protected.

When T697 is finished

The original task is done. The mentioned binaries are linked to /user/local/bin as axiom-* by make install

No nothing ! You don't have to be "association member" to have datasheet and licensing ?
They released the information in february, but this is all i know !

Do you have any documentation about the UHS-III physical layer?

Given that better stick with a Sony, Anton Bauer, Panasonic, or other manufacturer solution.

In T736#12383, @sebastian wrote:

Another point I mentioned already but feel need to put emphasis on now: If we here collectively develop a new battery solution the result will very likely remain an open source DIY kit for tinkeres and people interested in building their own experimental battery assemblies. Due to the regulations and certificates requires for bringing new battery products to the market we will most likely not be able to afford making it a real retail product..

Using 4 cells with a single pcb on top, forming a unit of battery.
This unit can be stacked to form the size of battery you want, in 4, 8, 12, 16 cells and so.

that sounds good.

From the electronics perspective there is no major change between the two. You can desing different cases that hold the amount of cells each camera needs.
I think tho, that we need to find a common connector and holding for all the batteries. So you can interchange them between different models of cameras.

agree.

What i see a little tricky is the hot swappable battery.

What about having a dual battery mount (two smaller batteries (8cells each) instead of one 16 cell battery)? would it be hot swappable then if you exchange one after another?

Hi everybody,
I asked to steadxp if they can say to us which component they use. No answer yet but i will tell you if i have one !

https://www.xsens.com/products/mti-1-series/ for 260€ plus VAT

is it possible to cover a smaller battery (8 cells) and big (16cells) with the same electronic design?

Yes and no. The way i throught the design was in modules of 4 cells.
Using 4 cells with a single pcb on top, forming a unit of battery.
This unit can be stacked to form the size of battery you want, in 4, 8, 12, 16 cells and so.

Michael I need this card twice the size. And a PSD file with the layers preferably as (edit: among other things) the sensor board on its own is needed in the Wiki.

I think the following needs a bit of context:

would you like to design the battery exclusively for the axiom beta (box shaped) enclosure or also to fit on the bigger (and more power hungry) ergonomic enclosure version as well?
do you think it make sense to combine it?

@Menga yesterday we worked on the design of the more mature and ergonomic camera body for the beta. a few questions popped up: is it possible to cover a smaller battery (8 cells) and big (16cells) with the same electronic design?
please evaluate if the outer measurements of the battery could change to something more flat like: 130 x 80 x 40 mm

done

@sebastian could you please remove the URL, as it shouldnt be public ;)

Also note alternative: 'This Clear Underwater Housing Is like Putting Your DSLR in a Condom'

This is the current push URL of the github webhook:

Wow, that's great progress you made here!

What about future UHS-III ? write up to 624 mo/s, better than Cfast2.0...
No card/slot on the market for now (maybe i'm wrong)
But still a good solution if it will be backward compatible with UHS-II.
Probably SD association can give more informations ?

Yes! Just now i created this (https://github.com/apertus-open-source-cinema/beta-software/pull/7) pull Request. If you want to bring the work on this forwards, you could test this (https://gitlab.com/nein/beta-software/-/jobs/38788789/artifacts/download) image and report your findings. edit: bertl is already doing this.

People from apertus who will be there:

In my opinion, no. This would just multiply number of repos, which increases difficulty of maintenance afterwards.

I'm working on it. Actually Step 2 is already fully automated.

Like you might have seen on the mailing list, Cineform is now open source.

In general yes. To have a clean system, we should package them. So we can also update them with the systems package manager.

Any progress on this front?

:O it's not open source!

Note that we are using Eagle 7.7.0 which is basically the last offline/old-license version before Autodesk took over.
Also note that our long term plan includes switching to KiCad which has made great progress since it gets the CERN treatment.

What software do you use at Axiom to design the PCBs?

I finally made the Eagle work on my computer, i have to say, is almost unusable compared to older version of Eagle.

For the rubber cover, we will work on 3d print plate that we can try to clip. Maybe an another solution in flexible plastic, not the more durable solution but very cheap to print !

For the rubber cover, we will work on 3d print plate that we can try to clip. Maybe an another solution in flexible plastic, not the more durable solution but very cheap to print !

I made this and a few other pholios public (apparently the default setting was "visible: all users" but that meant only people with phabricator account can see it - now everyone can).

Could you add another one on the lefthand side, on the bottom of the camera? If one was added right underneath the top one, you could mount a NATO rail there and easily mount a couple accessories.

Did you think it can be possible to add some protections on the ethernet, hdmi connectors ? It can save us a lot !

Hey guys,

> Please elaborate.

Please elaborate.

power led on top is a bad spot, cant it be on the side?
most of the time one can not see the led on top,
but on the side it can always be seen.

Emulating Canon DSLR branding not so good.

Renders and improvements good.

Brand-new renders!

Fenix sells individual batteries and also chargers.

To stay in CD and also because I thought it fit pretty well, I used Titillium

What's the font you've used for the port labeling Michael?

We rather use chip tuning like for cars, no?

In the other hand apert.us is also not delegated at the moment :)

@Menga i would opt for the 'less waste' and cheaper cells option ;)
do you think that using 16 cells instead of 8 would be also possible with the same pcb?

If anyone is landing on this task it would be a good idea to speak with one of us as a lot of mocks have been done and structure, whilst nothing is necessarily final, has moved on a lot since the pictures in the OP were posted.

Here's the charger. It's basic but it should work more than fine with protected batteries.

We are investigating the 90° Sensor rotation option - from what we know so far it will be a technically rather challenging effort and will likely require more PCB layers than OSHPark can manufacture. Details will follow.

"Is it not possible to share the sockets a little more equally between the two sides so there is a little room for screw mounts on both sides ?"
I agree on this. It would give it much versatility. It's a pitty about the cold shoe not fitting there.
Overall anyway, it looks great and with many possibilities to build around it.
Thank you guys for the hard work!

I will be there too.

Great! We will make sure you have everything you need.

Since we partner with Felix from the VOC we should ask them to have a combined assembly.

I have used YOURLS in the past. It works... and is easy to setup.

This combination looks really good: https://www.videodevices.com/products/portable-video-recorders/pix-e5/pix-lr (technically and visually!)

Found some by searching for "cold shoe" instead of "hot shoe":

Love your mock up. Sadly the 90 degree rotation board was only desired by a small number of people (I was one!) so development has been dropped, or maybe pushed to a much lower priority. Hopefully they will revisit the concept.

Unfortunately, I don't have the space, or funds, or a reason beyond Apertus to store a 3D printer.

A while back there was talk about designing an adapter that would allow the sensor to be rotated 90° so the camera head could be operated vertically. The optical centre would almost run down the middle of the body and would be better suited to a shoulder rig setup.

+1 on the ergonomics, although I understand a complete overhaul is out of the question at this point.

Thanks for all the feedback! Its great to see you guys involved!

How about this: